Bishop Speaks!!

<table width="100%"><tbody><tr><td width="90%"> Voor de mensen die een bestelling geplaatst hebben bij BBP (Bishop Power Products) en deze nooit hebben ontvangen, doe er je voordeel mee!!

Gr,

Mario





Bishop Speaks!

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Hello. My name is Dave and I am the new owner of Bishop Power Products. I would like to take this opportunity to explain some things that all previous customers need to understand. Please read the ENTIRE post before passing judgement or before making assumptions.



I bought Bishop Power Products for a large debt owed by Troy to Me and in that agreement, we have an indemnification clause which basically states that Troy is responsible for all previous orders and all previous debts. This was necessary because of his poor record keeping and inability to give me, in a timely manner, an exact number of orders that were outstanding. He is still working on it today (almost three weeks after the business sale took place).



One major issue in resolving this is that many people have initiated chargebacks with their credit card company or with Paypal and have received their money back but for some reason still feel they should get the product they ordered as well (I have no less than ten emails stating such). If there is a chargeback, the money is instantly withdrawn from Troys account. If he has no money in that account then Paypal protects buyers up to a certain amount and gives that money to the customer and in the case of a credit card transaction, they are protected 100% and the customer gets their money back regardless of Troy's account status. I am not asking anyone to withdraw their chargeback but if you have initiated a chargeback, your order will not be shipped because you should be getting your money back from your credit card company or Paypal whichever the case may be.



Please keep in mind that I, the new owner of Bishop, have absolutely NO access whatsoever to Troy's Paypal account or his old credit card merchant account so it is literally impossible for me to tell who has had their order shipped and who hasn't as it is also impossible for me to tell who has initiated a chargeback and who hasn't. I also have no access to old order information (beyond June 12th as that is when Troy changed to his new web cart). I can't just send orders to anyone who claims to not have received one. If you have not received your money back through the chargeback process, you should email Troy at info@formerbppowner.com and copy me in on the email as well at orders@b-p-p.com.





Now, with all that being said, I don't intend on standing by and doing nothing either. I am in fact working with Troy to try and get some of the old orders that he can CONFIRM still need to be shipped (that have no chargeback pending). But, you are all going to have to be patient. At this point, what choice do you and I have but to be patient anyway.



Please understand that you ordered from Troy, he received the money and not me. So any orders that I do send out, are a complete loss for me, other than the obvious good will.



We have opened our own Paypal and Merchant (credit card) accounts and we are currently shipping all orders placed on a daily basis by 2 pm (Monday through Friday). I am sure there are people reading this who have ordered from the new Bishop Power Products who are happy customers. We run a tight ship here and now have almost real time inventory on the website (updated daily at 4 pm).



This of course is only the beginning and it will be a long road back to earning your trust, but I need to tell you all publicly that Bishop Power Products is an entireley different company as of November 21st. Regardless of the speculation online, Troy is NOT still the owner and has nothing to do with the company anymore except to help me figure out who the old orders are that he still needs to take care of.



I will look back on this thread as often as I can but don't intend on hashing out problems in the public forum. Please email your questions to me at orders@b-p-p.com and please don't use the PM feature as I don't have time to add every forum PM to my daily routine. If you email me, please include your Full Name, Shipping Adress, order number and payment method and I will do what I can to help you.


Sincerely,

Dave
 
Dank Mario,

mail gestuurd, gelukkig heb ik alle mailverkeer en de vele (loze) beloftes bewaard. Een positieve draai gegeven eraan en nu maar weer afwachten ;) .

Ik heb echt het idee dat Troy er een nog grotere puinhoop van heeft gemaakt dan dat de nieuwe eigenaren in eerste instantie gedacht hadden. Beetje sneu, wat B-P-P had en heeft toch echt wel potentie. Mijn vertrouwen is inmiddels wel helemaal weg (het heeft me geld gekost).

Greetz, Aldert
 
Hoi Aldert,

Ik heb ook meer als $300 aan orders uit staan bij Troy:mad:

Heb erg veel gemaild (en bewaard!!) naar hem, helaas alleen maar Bullshit mails terug gehad met allerlei beloftes die hij tot nu toe nooit heeft waargemaakt.

Ook nog een PayPal claim aangemaakt en deze is ook gegrond verklaart, maar helaas zonder resultaat omdat zijn account leeg is, had overigens niet verwacht dat een betaling via PayPal toch nog zo veel risico bij de klant laat liggen!!

Maar goed laten we maar afwachten wat hier uit komt, niet geschoten is altijd mis!!

Even nog voor de moderators,

Ik hoop niet dat deze topic op slot gaat onder de noemer van een winkel bespreking!!

Ik heb deze topic puur geopend om mensen die nog wat te goed hebben van Troy (voormalig eigenaar van Bishop Power Products BBP) er op te attenderen dat er nieuwe mogelijkheden zijn om alsnog hun spullen te krijgen.

Gr,

Mario
 
Hey Mario,

n.a.v. jou post heb ik vanmorgen een mail gestuurd. Tot grote verbazing had ik vanmiddag reeds mail terug van Dave, wat me vertrouwen gaf dat e.e.a. misschien nog goed gaat komen. Ook de inhoud was redelijk vertrouwenswekkend, mijn geval gaat vast goedkomen!

Geduldig afwachten, we hebben nu al lang genoeg gewacht ;) .


Greetz, Aldert
 
Die mail heb ik ook gehad Aldert, maar eerst zien dan geloven, die Troy heeft er een aardig zooitje van gemaakt, kan me haast niet voorstellen dat een nieuwe eigenaar dit allemaal gaat betalen, maar misschien bestaat de Kerstman toch echt;)

Gr,

Mario
 
Ik begrijp niet waarom iemand zo'n winkel zou willen overnemen. Tegen de tijd dat hij van de negatieve naam af is, is ie failliet..
 
Waarom B-P-P overnemen?
Ze hebben bij velen WEL een goede naam. In mijn directe omgeving ken ik een aantal modelbouwers die zweren bij B-P-P, dat was ook de reden om het eens een keer te proberen.
Je neemt niet alleen de mislukte orders over, maar ook vele goede klanten! Als ze de zaakjes vanaf nu normaal regelen, dan weet ik zeker dat ze goede omzet draaien met de bestaande klantenkring.
De nieuwe eigenaren kunnen zich verschuilen achter Troy als het ze teveel geld gaat kosten, en ze gebruiken Troy als afschuifsysteem voor hetgene fout is gegaan in het verleden (wat hij blijkbaar ook fout heeft gedaan??), "maar wij doen het goed vanaf nu" ;) .

Nog even afwachten.
Greetz, Aldert
 
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mso-fareast-theme-font:minor-fareast; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi;} </style> <![endif]--> [FONT=&quot]Hello Mario, thank you for responding. I will forward this to the new owners and they will now be taking care of your order. They will be in contact with you.<o:p></o:p>[/FONT]
 
Net weer een bericht binnen van de shop zelf:D

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Your order has been completed successfully. <o></o>
 
Looking Good:D

Your item left the United States from ISC LOS ANGELES CA (USPS) at 11:29 AM on December 26, 2008. Information, if available, is updated every evening. Please check again later.
 
Afgelopen woensdag is mijn bestelling van 25 september compleet geleverd:grin:

Thumps Up voor de nieuwe eigenaar van BPP!!

ps. hoe staat het er bij jou voor Aldert?

Gr,

Mario
 
Afgelopen woensdag is mijn bestelling van 25 september compleet geleverd:grin:

Thumps Up voor de nieuwe eigenaar van BPP!!

ps. hoe staat het er bij jou voor Aldert?

Gr,

Mario

Ik had twee dagen na de mail richting de nieuwe eigenaren (kopie naar Troy) een reactie van Troy. Waarin hij wederom alle gegevens wilde ontvangen. Dit was makkelijk, deze mail stond reeds standaard in mijn conceptjes, hij was al veel vaker verstuurd.
Vervolgens geen reactie. Tot nu toe ook geen reactie... ik ging er eigenlijk vanuit dat ik de spullen of geld wel op mijn buik kon schrijven.
Ik heb vanmorgen dus besloten om maar wat EZ-run setjes te bestellen, de mamba's komen toch niet meer.... Tot een uurtje terug de bel ging, en DAAR WAS DE BESTELLING!
Meevaller, echter beetje jammer dat de EZ-run setjes besteld zijn.
En betreffende B-P-P, waarschijnlijk ga ik er niets meer halen. Deze bestelling heeft slechts 7 maanden geduurd ;) (natrap natrap).

Bedankt Mario voor dit topic en de tip!


Greetz, Aldert
 
2x 3S2100 TPlite
2x 3S1800 Hyperion (voor iemand anders)
1x extra300 (vliegtuig)

Hoop natuurlijk dat hij nog eens wat op gaat sturen zoals hij al lang geleden beloofd heeft. Vind het niet eens zo'n ramp als er iets mis gaat, kan gebeuren, maar maak dan geen valse beloftes...
 
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