Verplaatsen as Plettenberg Orbit 20-14
- Topicstarter Hans Meij
- Startdatum
ron van sommeren
Forum veteraan
Ik weet niet of je hier de informatie uit kunt halen:
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/zip/Umbau_Orbit_H.pdf
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/zip/Anbau_Verl_Orbit.pdf
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/zip/Umbau_Orbit_H.pdf
http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/zip/Anbau_Verl_Orbit.pdf
Mijn probleem is dat de motor bevestiging onvoldoende stijfheid bezet waardoor het geheel zo begint te resoneren dat het stuk slaat.
Ik heb de motor op de beurs gekocht bij Plettenberg en gevraagd of ik omgekeerde montage toe kon passen (montageplaat zo dicht mogelijk tegen het motorschot ivm smalle motorkap)
Dat kon en zij hebben ter plekke de motor omgebouwd. De as (te lang) komt nu op de andere plaats uit de motor.
Mijn mailtje gisteren naar Plettenberg gaf als antwoord om de as maar af te zagen. Daar heb ik nog niet zo'n zin in.
Ik wil de as verschuiven, bij dezelfde montagewijze alleen met langere steunen, of ik wil de as geheel verschuiven om de montageplaat weer aan de voorzijde te krijgen.
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Vraag aan Plettenberg:
Hi team Plettenberg,
On the Dortmund fair I bought a Orbit 20/14 and a Schulze controller at your stand for a Seduction Freestyle 135*135 cm aerobatic plane of 2kg weight
Because the cowl is quite narrow I asked if it was possible to mount it reversely. That would cause no problems was said and you did some rebuilt of the engine.
On the two pictures you can see how it is mounted now.
Due to the long lenth of the shaft the whole setup can bent quite a lot when force is applied to the propeller. Allthough I balanced the prop and spinner it will still shake to much when turning full power. A kind of a resonation that will destroy the engine when would be prolonged.
What is your advise to do?
Do better balancing
Built the engine back to the original setup with the shaft exit at the mountingplate so the weight of spinner and prop versus the engine are on both sides of the bearing
(Can I do tha myself and how, I dot see a way to dismantle the engine)
Keep this setup but shorten the shaft.
(Can the shaft be shifted back a bit or do I have to cut it?)
Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Hans Meij
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Antwoord Plettenberg:
Dear Hans Meij,
you can use the motor with the shaft on the back-side!
Please cut the shaft so short you can, than you have no
problems.Don't use the motor with the long shaft
you send us a picture.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Ik heb de motor op de beurs gekocht bij Plettenberg en gevraagd of ik omgekeerde montage toe kon passen (montageplaat zo dicht mogelijk tegen het motorschot ivm smalle motorkap)
Dat kon en zij hebben ter plekke de motor omgebouwd. De as (te lang) komt nu op de andere plaats uit de motor.
Mijn mailtje gisteren naar Plettenberg gaf als antwoord om de as maar af te zagen. Daar heb ik nog niet zo'n zin in.
Ik wil de as verschuiven, bij dezelfde montagewijze alleen met langere steunen, of ik wil de as geheel verschuiven om de montageplaat weer aan de voorzijde te krijgen.
===============================================
Vraag aan Plettenberg:
Hi team Plettenberg,
On the Dortmund fair I bought a Orbit 20/14 and a Schulze controller at your stand for a Seduction Freestyle 135*135 cm aerobatic plane of 2kg weight
Because the cowl is quite narrow I asked if it was possible to mount it reversely. That would cause no problems was said and you did some rebuilt of the engine.
On the two pictures you can see how it is mounted now.
Due to the long lenth of the shaft the whole setup can bent quite a lot when force is applied to the propeller. Allthough I balanced the prop and spinner it will still shake to much when turning full power. A kind of a resonation that will destroy the engine when would be prolonged.
What is your advise to do?
Do better balancing
Built the engine back to the original setup with the shaft exit at the mountingplate so the weight of spinner and prop versus the engine are on both sides of the bearing
(Can I do tha myself and how, I dot see a way to dismantle the engine)
Keep this setup but shorten the shaft.
(Can the shaft be shifted back a bit or do I have to cut it?)
Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Hans Meij
===============================================
Antwoord Plettenberg:
Dear Hans Meij,
you can use the motor with the shaft on the back-side!
Please cut the shaft so short you can, than you have no
problems.Don't use the motor with the long shaft
you send us a picture.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
ron van sommeren
Forum veteraan
As op één of andere manier tot in de spinnner laten doorlopen?
ron van sommeren
Forum veteraan
Aluminium geval uitboren? Natuurlijk niet het deel met de goede aspassing uitboren.
Na wat EMail verkeer met plettenberg ben ik er achter dat de as fixed is. Voor de andere montagewijze gebruiken ze een nieuwe as met plaat aangezien deze een vaste verbinding met elkaar hebben.
http://www.hansmeij.herejezus.nl/orbit.pdf
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Hi Hans,
i wish you much success and wait about the result.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 10:18
An: Technik.Plettenberg
Betreff: Re: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Pascal,
Thanks.
So if the shaft is fixed to the plate then my best option is as you suggested, cut the shaft to a minimal length and then see how it goes.
If it is still not to my liking I have to by a new shaft with plate.
Regards,
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: Technik.Plettenberg
To: 'Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij'
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: AW: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Hans,
yes, you need a new backplate with the shaft !
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 09:36
An: Technik.Plettenberg
Betreff: Re: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Pascal,
From the instruction I do understand that I need a new shaft with front plate because they are fixed together and can not be separated from each other.
Regards,
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: Technik.Plettenberg
To: 'Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij'
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: AW: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Hans,
it is no problem to change the shaft with the backplate.
I send you enclosed the manual to change the bachplate.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2005 17:52
An: Technik.Plettenberg
Betreff: Re: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Pascal,
Thanks for your answer.
Is it possible for me to change the engine back to the original configuration myself.
(with the shaft exiting from the mounting plate)
Regards,
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: Technik.Plettenberg
To: 'Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij'
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:48 PM
Subject: AW: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Dear Hans Meij,
you can use the motor with the shaft on the back-side!
Please cut the shaft so short you can, than you have no
problems.Don't use the motor with the long shaft
you send us a picture.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2005 13:54
An: technik@plettenberg-motoren.com
Betreff: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi team Plettenberg,
On the Dortmund fair I bought a Orbit 20/14 and a Schulze controller at your stand for a Seduction Freestyle 135*135 cm aerobatic plane of 2kg weight
Because the cowl is quite narrow I asked if it was possible to mount it reversely. That would cause no problems was said and you did some rebuilt of the engine.
On the two pictures you can see how it is mounted now.
Due to the long lenth of the shaft the whole setup can bent quite a lot when force is applied to the propeller. Allthough I balanced the prop and spinner it will still shake to much when turning full power. A kind of a resonation that will destroy the engine when would be prolonged.
What is your advise to do?
Do better balancing
Built the engine back to the original setup with the shaft exit at the mountingplate so the weight of spinner and prop versus the engine are on both sides of the bearing
(Can I do tha myself and how, I dot see a way to dismantle the engine)
Keep this setup but shorten the shaft.
(Can the shaft be shifted back a bit or do I have to cut it?)
Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Hans Meij
http://www.hansmeij.herejezus.nl/orbit.pdf
===========================================
Hi Hans,
i wish you much success and wait about the result.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 10:18
An: Technik.Plettenberg
Betreff: Re: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Pascal,
Thanks.
So if the shaft is fixed to the plate then my best option is as you suggested, cut the shaft to a minimal length and then see how it goes.
If it is still not to my liking I have to by a new shaft with plate.
Regards,
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: Technik.Plettenberg
To: 'Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij'
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: AW: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Hans,
yes, you need a new backplate with the shaft !
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 18. August 2005 09:36
An: Technik.Plettenberg
Betreff: Re: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Pascal,
From the instruction I do understand that I need a new shaft with front plate because they are fixed together and can not be separated from each other.
Regards,
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: Technik.Plettenberg
To: 'Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij'
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:57 AM
Subject: AW: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Hans,
it is no problem to change the shaft with the backplate.
I send you enclosed the manual to change the bachplate.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2005 17:52
An: Technik.Plettenberg
Betreff: Re: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi Pascal,
Thanks for your answer.
Is it possible for me to change the engine back to the original configuration myself.
(with the shaft exiting from the mounting plate)
Regards,
Hans
----- Original Message -----
From: Technik.Plettenberg
To: 'Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij'
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:48 PM
Subject: AW: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Dear Hans Meij,
you can use the motor with the shaft on the back-side!
Please cut the shaft so short you can, than you have no
problems.Don't use the motor with the long shaft
you send us a picture.
best regards
Mit freundlichem Gruß
Pascal Meyer
TEAM Plettenberg
Plettenberg Elektromotoren
Rostocker Str. 30
D - 34225 Baunatal
Tel: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 0
Fax: ++49 (0) 56 01 / 97 96 11
www.Plettenberg-Motoren.com
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Ilse Bouter en/of Hans Meij [mailto:boutermeij@hetnet.nl]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2005 13:54
An: technik@plettenberg-motoren.com
Betreff: Mounting the Orbit 20/14
Hi team Plettenberg,
On the Dortmund fair I bought a Orbit 20/14 and a Schulze controller at your stand for a Seduction Freestyle 135*135 cm aerobatic plane of 2kg weight
Because the cowl is quite narrow I asked if it was possible to mount it reversely. That would cause no problems was said and you did some rebuilt of the engine.
On the two pictures you can see how it is mounted now.
Due to the long lenth of the shaft the whole setup can bent quite a lot when force is applied to the propeller. Allthough I balanced the prop and spinner it will still shake to much when turning full power. A kind of a resonation that will destroy the engine when would be prolonged.
What is your advise to do?
Do better balancing
Built the engine back to the original setup with the shaft exit at the mountingplate so the weight of spinner and prop versus the engine are on both sides of the bearing
(Can I do tha myself and how, I dot see a way to dismantle the engine)
Keep this setup but shorten the shaft.
(Can the shaft be shifted back a bit or do I have to cut it?)
Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Hans Meij
ron van sommeren
Forum veteraan
Daar was ik al bang voor, vandaar het vraagteken achter mijn suggestie. Erg duidelijk die twee lijntjes erbij.
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Aaalie
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Hoi hoi,
kleine investering, zeker de moeite waard...
en dan i.c.m. met de volgende motordrager
Succes, groetjes A.
kleine investering, zeker de moeite waard...
Succes, groetjes A.