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Monsters of Torque [revised], part#F: selecting a suitable brushless system
Motor selection...
notes:
*RV=recomended voltage [lipo cells count]
*CL=can length [all motors chosen to fit in the e-zilla directly without chassis modifications].
*all setups refer to single motor use.
*all motors are sensorless. sensorless motors feature a top rpm range that is higher than the corresponding sensored ones [explained in section A].
*although specific gearing recommendations can be given, i would generally suggest [for safety reasons] that most motor setups should be geared initially with a 18t pinion, and gear up 1t at a time, depending on the temperature test [finger test]. if you need a specific gearing recommendation for a particular combo, go ahead and ask; thats the simplest thing to do. remember: gearing is always relative to wheel weight and diameter as well as some other things... meaning that there can`t be a 'universal' answer to the generic 'what pinion' question...
brand_____model___size___wind(or rpm/v)___SD[mm]___CL[mm]___RV
hacker_____B50_____L_____9________________5_______ _60_____4-5
hacker_____B50_____L_____10_______________5_______ _60_____4-5
hacker_____C50_____L_____9________________5_______ _60_____4-5
hacker_____C50_____L_____10_______________5_______ _60_____4-5
lehner_____basic____XL____2400___________4/3.17______48______4
lehner_____basic____XXL___1500_____________4______ __48______5
lehner_____basic____XXL___3000_____________4______ __58______4
feigao_____540______XL____7________________5______ _75______5
feigao_____540______XL____8________________5______ _75______5
nemesis____blue_____L_____9________________5______ __60_____4
nemesis____blue_____L_____10_______________5______ __60____4-5
lehner_____1940____NA_____6________________5______ _64_____4
lehner_____1940____NA_____7________________5______ _64____4-5
lehner_____1940____NA_____8________________5______ _64_____5
lehner_____1930____NA_____8________________5______ _54_____4
lehner_____2230____NA_____7________________5______ _61_____5
lehner_____2230____NA_____6________________5______ _61_____5
bk___wanderer/S20__L______9________________5_______60_____4
feigao_____540_____L______8______________5&3.17___ __60_____4
feigao_____540_____L______9______________5&3.17___ __60_____4
feigao_____540_____L______10_____________5&3.17___ __60____4-5
mtroniks__Genesis___L_____3000___________3.17_____ ___60_____4
novak____HV-MAXX__XL___4400___________3.17________72_____4
HET_______600-32__L_____2050_____________5________60_____4-5
Plettenberg_bigmaxx_XL____2300_____________5______ __80____4-6
Plettenberg__maxx__XL_____3000_____________5______ _70_____4
GreatPlanes_ammo__L______2600_____________5_______ _60____4
GreatPlanes_ammo__L______1800_____________5_______ _60____5
Kontronik____Fun___L______1700_____________5______ __60___5-6
Kontronik____Fun___L______1900_____________5______ __50____5
Mega_____Acn22/30/2______1770____________5_________50____5
Mega_____Acn22/35/1E_____2550____________5_________60____5
Mega_____Acn22/45/1E_____2100____________5_________70____5
Quannum____36-55________1350____________5_________55___5-6
Medusa_____36-50_________2200__________3.17&5______50___4-5
Medusa_____36-50_________3300__________3.17&5______50___4
Medusa_____36-60_________2000____________5_________60___5
**note #1: the novak HV-MAXX is the only system in this list that is sensored, and is NOT a direct-fit for the ezilla. feigao/nemesis XXL cans and lehner 2230 are also non-direct fits. [added note: any size longer than 65mm won`t fit directly into a stock e-savage chassis, and any motor up to 85mm will fit with GCM RB BL chassis].
***note #2: the novak HV-MAXX and the Mtroniks Genesis Truck usually come as full combos. the mtroniks plasma3000 motor is a rebadged feigao 8L.
****note#3: the 'nemesis blue' motors can also be found in purple and red colours with different names. all of them are actually feigao motors, therefore there is no 'actual' performance difference between feigao and nemesis motors. same applies to BK 'wanderer' motors. same applies between greatplanes` ammo,robbe 'roxxy',turnigy 36-56 series of motors.
ESC selection...
as with the gearing, you are encouraged to ASK...
suitable for almost all motors listed, up to 5s lipo:
schulze 18.97kw
BK warrior 12020
MGM Compro 16024 or 16018
MGM Compro 12024 or 16018
Quark monster pro 125B
Quark 80B
Tekin R1 Pro
CC mamba monster max
lower cost,yet suitable for most motors @4cells lipo:
schulze 18.61k
BK Warrior 9920
MGM Compro 8012
CC mamba max
xerun 120
hacker master car [sport or race]
Brushed vs Brushless: does brushless worth the effort and money?
the answer is a hybrid of yes and no. take a look to the chart:
______________typical LV brushed___brushed HV powertool___sensored bl______sensorless bl
maintenance____high/very high______low/very low___________very low/none___very low/none
typical speeds___medium___________medium/high___________high____________very high
torque_________low/medium________high/very high_________high/very high____high/very high
efficiency______low_______________medium/high___________high/very high____high/very high
gearing flexibility_low______________medium_______________low/medium_______medium
short-term cost__medium__________low___________________very high________very high
long-term cost___medium/high______low__________________low_____________low
lifespan__________low____________medium___________ ___high_____________high
duty ruggideness__low____________high_________________medium__________medium
*note: most brushless motors utilize neodynium magnets. neodynium makes for more torque and better efficiency. however, if water reaches neodynium, it will be harmed. therefore, always keep your brushless motor(s) away from water & mud. you could seal the can [you may have noticed that most bl motors otherwise have a closed can], but nothing can guarantee that driving in such conditions won`t kill your motor.
my picks and recommendations...
this could [or should] be a huge paragraph, but i will limit it to a few lines. i am not a guru anyway...
typical low cost:
@4s lipo: ammo 36-56-2600, feigao/nemesis 9L.
@5s lipo: ammo 36-56-1800, feigao/nemesis 11L.
high end:
@4s lipo: lehner 1940 w6 or plettenberg maxximum w/fan.
@5s lipo: lehner 1940 w8 or medusa 36-60-2000v2 or plettenberg bigmaxximum.
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-gcm rb/bl chassis, anodized red, custom trays.
-medusa 3650-2200v2, geared 22/66.
-waterproofed mamba max with caps.
-stock tires on rpm stablemaxx rims and alloy hubs.
-tmaxx narrow cvds with tmaxx diff output shafts.
-3racing straps,custom painted monster beetle body w/wing.
-hpi cups,ofna dogbones throughout the central transmission.
-heatsink on stock slipper clutch and no spur gear cover.
-str front alloy c-hubs and 9kg steering servo on a 6v linear bec.
Last edited by Kostaktinos_mt; 07-01-2008 at 12:51 AM. Reason: added medusa motors...
