Thanks for the info, your a mine of information it worked quite well, but not sure if the first one worked better, maybe less spray as well with the first. No film though, blame the camera man for the flat battery shame. I swapped back to the 20p straight away, I don't think it liked the extra weight, maybe I should try with no weight. We are having an open day soon, I think I may be required to put on a show of Monoskiing and kneeboarding and maybe tubing.