GREETINGS FROM NANTONG, CHINA

Dear Friends.

I am now in the research phase where I am trying to get a general idea of the differences between the Dromedaris and the Batavia.

The VOC-site (www.vocsite.nl) describes De Dromedaris as: "a Dutch Jaght (280 last / 560 tons burthen / 24 “nominal” cannons) built for the Kamer van Amsterdam by Amsterdam Yards in the Netherlands in 1645. It was in use by the VOC from 1645 until 1661 when it was laid up."

So far I have found three different versions: - one (PHOTO 1) is a scratchbuilt model from Model Shipyard (www.stephensandkenau.com), PHOTO 2 shows a scratchbuilt model by John Protero-Thomas with which he won a gold medal at the 2009 UK Model Engineering Exhibition, while PHOTO 3 is of a drawing which hangs in Zuid-Afrika Huis in the Netherlands. As you will see, all three differ greatly; particularly in terms of the number of cannons and their layout.

PHOTO 1

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PHOTO 2

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PHOTO 3

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I was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction where I could find more - and importantly - accurate information.

Many thanks - Heinrich
 
Thank you four response Stephan. This site (www.stephensandkenau.com) lists the ship in PHOTO 1 as the Dromedaris. This is also the same ship of which I have shown the Spiegel in my second post. I agree with you that the ships in photos 2 and 3 look alike, but the number of cannons and layout are vastly different. Unfortunately, I can't open your link, because I don't have VPN.
 
Heinrich zei:
Thank you four response Stephan. This site (www.stephensandkenau.com) lists the ship in PHOTO 1 as the Dromedaris. This is also the same ship of which I have shown the Spiegel in my second post. I agree with you that the ships in photos 2 and 3 look alike, but the number of cannons and layout are vastly different. Unfortunately, I can't open your link, because I don't have VPN.
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there where 2 pictures of the replica.

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Dear Stephan. Thank you so much. Photographs of the Batavia I have, but pictures of the Dromedaris is extremely useful. The replica was built in South Africa in 1952 for the 300-year celebrations. I am just trying to see if it is doable to create a Dromedaris version of the Batavia - if I am in any doubt I will obviously keep the Batavia unchanged as it is such a beautiful ship.
 
Heinrich zei:
BATAVIA / DROMEDARIS VERLAAT KOLDERSTOK ONDERWEG NA CHINA
Hier is nou voorwaar n brokkie goeie nuus vir my. Soos beloofd het Hans gister stiptelik die Batavia aan die versender besorg. Ter gedagte aan wat op die oorspronklike vaart gebeur het, het ek seker gemaak dat die name van Francisco Pelsaert, Adriaen Jacobsz en Hieronymus Cornelisz nie op die skeepsrol verskyn nie. Instede daarvan is die Dromedaris se oorspronklike skipper, Claes Lastdragger aangestel terwyl Vise-Admiraal Witte Corneliszoon de With self die bevel op hom geneem het!:bye:
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Google translate doet wonderen :)
 
Tja dat zuid Afrikaans heeft toch wel zijn charme hoor, soms moet je het een paar keer lezen maar komen doen we er...
Enne *Hans* ik kan geen enkele fout ontdekken hoor :p:p Sal wel baje goed syn
 
Beste Vriende.

Baie dankie vir al julle mooi wense. I am just very relieved to see that the package has been acknowledged by customs. I wasn't even sure if they were handling anything that is non-medical at the moment.

Ja, Afrikaans en Nederlands is nou voorwaar n interessante topic. Ek lees Nederlands baie maklik, maar moet darem ook se, ek het Nederlands vir 3 jaar studeer. In Zuid-Afrika, word Nederlands en Afrikaans gekombineer as een vak - Afrikaans-Nederlands op universiteit. Afrikaans het natuurlik ontstaan omdat die Afrikaners geweier het om Engels te praat, Maar die Bijbel, byvoorbeeld was in Nederlands tot en met 1939. Ek het nou nog n Nederlandse Bijbel in my besit. Terloops, Zuid-Afrikaners selde praat van Nederland, die gewilde naam is Holland - al is dit nie korrek nie. :)
 
Dear Friends

A quick update: the Batavia cleared customs in Suzhou this afternoon! (After Shanghai it goes to a final customs' office in Suzhou). With time on my hands, I looked at all the photographs I have downloaded of the Batavia and imagined what the Masters' Cabin would look like at night. Obviously I have no plans or idea of scale, but started playing around.

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